(To the older males of MCZ) Did the girls's outfits early in their career shocked/bothered you?

MM305

Like the bare midriffs with in "Chaii Maxx" and "Pinky Jones", orr even the very short dresses/skirts in the "PUSH" and "Santa-San"? Especially since they were less than 18 when the music videos for these songs were made?

Mattthecat

And you created a new thread for this as well?!
You do not have to make a new thread for every post you do
There is a general discussion thread in case you don't know...
http://momoiroclover.net/discussion/9/general-discussion#Item_4615

MM305

@Mattthecat I've realized that, but I just wanted to do a thread on this particular subject so to be easier to find compared to the general discussion (that has over 4000 comments)!

Mattthecat

Or you could have asked it on yet another thread you made in which the issue was already being addressed
http://momoiroclover.net/discussion/406/how-is-ayaka-referred-to-as-the-slightly-sexy-idol

This is not a question for eternity. Oh, and one that concerns everyone, not just pedophiles

MM305

@Mattthecat In that thread, I was asking about the nickname they gave to Ayaka.

In this thread, I want to know the grown males perspective on the skimpy outfits that ALL the members wore! Were they shocked/bothered by the outfits at all?

Amagi822

I would have thought you'd have gotten some idea after the thread on /r/jpop that most MCZ (or idol) fans clearly are not bothered by it. I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm not a fan because I want to obsess over some girl showing a bit of skin - who cares about that? For me it's about the music, the energy, and being cheered up. Others still are in it to have someone to cheer for, which is a major thing in the larger idol groups. But I think you'll have to visit a lot of other forums than Reddit and this one to find people that are bothered about showing a bit of skin.

Mattthecat

https://www.reddit.com/r/jpop/comments/41w1ih/to_older_male_idol_fans_has_it_bothered_you_to/

unasdoop

the only one that bothered me is the kimi to sekai music video. other than that momoclo never did like bikini gravure or anything on the level of a lot of other idol groups.

Mattthecat

Someone once coined the expression of MCZ providing a "purity boner" :)
I think that sums it all up

In general if you are bothered by bare midriffs on 16ys you'd better get the hell outta idol fandom...
Personally I don't care. If I wanna see idol skin I watch an Ebisu Muscats show

Gakugeeeekai

I have pretty much zero issue with any of MCZs outfits (other than that some of em are uuuuugly).

eyeless

This is not a question for any stardust group fans, I haven't seen these groups try to be sexually attractive, even kimi to sekai is more like a joke to me :)

48 groups and Hello Project idols do bikini photoshot when they're very young, some on their 14-16. But this is normal in idol fandom.

I suggest you bring this discussion to http://stage48.net or http://hello-online.org for more extreme result.

I'll keep this thread open just to see if there're anyone with different opinion which seems unlikely for stardust group like Momoclo.

taskinist

They're idols, they do as idols do. Welcome to the industry. (Though Kimi to Sekai is nasty even in that sense)

The only thing I can remember outfit-wise that really bugged me was Kanako's headdress in Pinky Jones (and all of their outfits for that matter), and that was for a different reason X_X

Mattthecat

Hey, let's turn this into a worst MCZ costume thread :)

I nominate the one with the rollerskate elbow protectors and the spiral "bras" that look like dog poo

I would call these the opposite of sexually arousing...

unasdoop

Mattthecat said:
Hey, let's turn this into a worst MCZ costume thread :)

I nominate the one with the rollerskate elbow protectors and the spiral "bras" that look like dog poo

I would call these the opposite of sexually arousing...

they probably got those out of madonna's trash can

EDIT: just saw this dudes other threads LOL are they a member just to troll? stardust idols don't do any of the things other idol groups do that people could take offense with.

MM305

unasdoop said:
EDIT: just saw this dudes other threads LOL are they a member just to troll?

MM305

No! It's just that other groups has had females wearing such outfits (or even bikinis). Being that most of their fans of males, we want to hear a male's point of view onidols wearing such outfits.

Lurkette

... what exactly is it that you want to hear? Because you not only insist on starting a new thread every time you have a question, you also respond to every answer with, "No! I just want to know this answer!" even though you just got several, so clearly you have something in mind that you're waiting to hear.

But to continue with ugliest costumes, these bother me on several levels.

What makes these worse is that somewhere in there is a good idea, but it's covered in garbage.

MM305

@Lurkette Thing is, I have read and seen many people who always find Japanese females, who mostly dresses in short skirts/dresses, to be horny/slutty individuals because of how Japanese anime/comic books/videos portray these females (not to mention the whole tentacle porn and Hentai remarks)!

So I want these older males to further explain their position on young females wearing these revealing outfits, and what's their reaction to the allegations I just talked about?

Lurkette

People who think that are racist, sexist, and have never been to Japan nor do they ever intend to learn more about it (or any other country, more than likely, because they're also xenophobic). And why do you care so much about what older men think? You've gotten tons of responses just now saying that people neither care nor do they find Momoclo's outfits in any way revealing or arousing, so... bye. This is done now.

unasdoop

MM305 said:
@Lurkette Thing is, I have read and seen many people who always find Japanese females, who mostly dresses in short skirts/dresses, to be horny/slutty individuals because of how Japanese anime/comic books/videos portray these females (not to mention the whole tentacle porn and Hentai remarks)!

So I want these older males to further explain their position on young females wearing these revealing outfits, and what's their reaction to the allegations I just talked about?

except momoiro clover has never once worn any of the described outfits

literally the only thing you could call out is the kimi to sekai music video and aarin's solo song and that's not even as revealing as you are describing

Also idols are literally marketed as pure/non-sexual and if they ever date anyone or do anything impure its an instant scandal

you are here for some sort of agenda and really this forum/idol group doesn't fit in to what you are trying to accomplish

knot555

I'm not sure exactly what this thread is about but here is my two cents worth. I'm 46 from Australia. 2013 I discovered BABYMETAL via YouTube. 2014 I booked a trip to Makuhari to see them & a week prior I came across a Momoclo vid & have listened to & watched them daily since. Traveling Tokyo with Momoclo blasting in my headphones was surreal. Now I come from a 70's Rock & Metal through to extreme death Metal background & how in the hell I ended up laughing, crying & smiling to Momoclo every day since I first heard them I'll never know but for me they are the most entertaining group I've come across since my childhood seeing Kiss for the first time in the mid seventies. Not one of the members would ever be rated as a class singer yet when I hear them singing especially together it brings me to tears on a daily basis with an overwhelming ridiculous feeling of joy! They are pure & genuine hard working entertainers & one of their most appealing aspects is their amazing outfits & yes some of them are a little off to us all at some point but I love the fact that it is never a sexually revealing type of western crap related presentation. I idolize BABYMETAL, Band-Maid, MCZ & Miwa with the same love & respect as Kiss, Morbid Angel, Rush, Hate Eternal or any other artist. For those of you who find MCZ sexually driven. Pull your head out of your ass creep!

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