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Tokisen at Natlie Jam 2019

Mattthecat

Hot Wave - September 1, 2019

http://www.momoiroclover.net/discussion/comment/45316#Comment_45316

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http://momoiroclover.net/discussion/comment/45451#Comment_45451

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http://momoiroclover.net/discussion/132/general-discussion#Item_2268

Mattthecat

Playlist - September 24, 2019

Talk and performance of "Koi no Shape Up"

https://aidoru-online.me/torrents-details.php?id=155906 (1080i)
https://aidoru-online.me/torrents-details.php?id=155907 (720p)

Spoiler:

vimoral

The evolution of Tokisen is real. I really like the way they are following.

PurynMon

They have everything to be at the same level as Ebi/Shachi

huynq1995

PurynMon said:
They have everything to be at the same level as Ebi/Shachi

They can be at the same level as Shachi. But Ebi is at higher level

PurynMon

They will reach shachi level first, in my opinion team shachi / team syachihoko stopped in time

mr_sas

PurynMon said:
They have everything to be at the same level as Ebi/Shachi

they might if the graduation doesn't hinder them,now they are catching up. now if they sell out sun plaza, I think Budokan its their next target

Mattthecat

PurynMon said:
They will reach shachi level first, in my opinion team shachi / team syachihoko stopped in time

I absolutely disagree.
Shachi have had an immense change-up after the name change, and for the better.
And comparing those two groups doesn't make any sense at all as they're completely different

ebizori

how do you determinate level of the group? if you look at their followers in twiiter, it's 145K Ebichu's stuff and 29K Tokisen's for 5 years. No way to get it. They maybe get only Taconiji's in 3-5 years (50K).

The growth in their popularity is not even fast at all, almost the same as Basho's

ebizori

For comparison, Bish appeared almost in one time with the Tokisens, but they have already 160K followers for 5 years and appears on central TV more often than Ebichu now.

To increase your popularity, it’s not enough to reach the level of previous groups, you need to exceed it, or noticeably differ stylistically from them

Mattthecat

In the end it's really only personal taste that counts in my opinion

vimoral

I do not think that the number of followers tells you the success of the group, in the Tokisen case, this year they have increased their sales, they are giving more concerts hanging SOLD OUT, they are doing more publicity / CM's (the brands are interested in them) and they have the next months a very much squeezed schedule of events / concerts.

ebizori

Yes, they have done it all, but it looks just as their local success at now moment, not so great, but pleasure of cause.

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Mattthecat

Hot Wave - October 6, 2019

https://aidoru-online.me/torrents-details.php?id=156431 (1080i)
https://aidoru-online.me/torrents-details.php?id=156434 (720p)

Kanamin, Hiyorin, Juli and Oharu
on
https://www.teletama.jp/hotwave/
https://twitter.com/music_teletama/status/1178323855258996736
https://twitter.com/sendenbu_staff/status/1180847430033522689

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